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Topic: Generating static HTM pages
Posted By: ProductCart
Subject: Generating static HTM pages
Date Posted: 07-December-2005 at 2:01pm

Creating Static Store Pages Using a Custom 404 Error Handler

 

At Early Impact we are always looking for ways to help you increase your online sales. Achieving good search engine rankings is a key component to any Internet marketing strategy.

 

Having product and category page URLs that are search engine friendly can help. We believe that we have found a technique that will allow you to improve your search engine rankings, is easy to implement, does not require substantial code changes, and does not violate any Webmaster "best practices" (which is a crucial concern for us).

 

Using a custom 404 error handler - especially created for ProductCart-powered stores - your Web server will rewrite the URL of dynamic pages so that they look and behave like static .htm pages. If you are using ProductCart v3, the page URLs will also include the product and category names, thus becoming even more search engine friendly.

 

The attached document and ASP files can help you edit your existing ProductCart-powered store to accomplish this.


http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/productcart/seo-urls - Download the files >>

 

We are the first ones to use this technique, on our own software store. For example, here is a product details page:

http://www.earlyimpact.com/eistore/productcart/pc/ProductCart-Shopping-Cart-Software-v3-118p431.htm -  

... and here is a category page:

http://www.earlyimpact.com/eistore/productcart/pc/ProductCart-eCommerce-Software-c118.htm -  

The ASP pages are presented to the browser as ".htm" pages. These ".htm" pages actually don't exist on the server. The user is "transferred" from the missing .htm page to the asp page "behind the scene" using a technique that takes advantage of the custom 404 error page.

 

We have done extensive research and believe that this technique does not violate any "best practices" because the custom 404 error handler will correctly report that a page does not exist (404 server response code), except for properly formatted product and category links (and these pages do exist, although they are ASP pages).

 

Download the attached file for more information, system requirements and detailed installation instructions. Please note that we do not provide technical support on implementing this technique on your Web store. Please use this forum to communicate with other ProductCart users about your experience.

 

Let us know if this helps your search engine rankings!

 

You can download the file here: http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/productcart/seo-urls - http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/productcart/seo-urls



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Replies:
Posted By: watercrazed
Date Posted: 18-February-2006 at 7:30am
Well, People Did it?

I am a little leary of using custom 404 errors pages in this manner, and would like to hear how it worked for others.
It looks like it may be creating duplicate pages.

This was the search I ran in google.
artwork  "Anne Ormsby" site:www.ormsbyeditions.com

out of 54 results
42 were asp pages,  36 supplemental

Which tells me that there are 24 pages that propably should rank for that term that phase will not. Now I have no Idea if it is due to using custom error pages, but.. why all the supplement rated pages. Were they there before the implementation of the 404 redirect?

Do you see the same thing or am I missing something?
Do you think have pages on the site and in the index listed as supplement is a big deal or does not mean a thing?

I need to know.

I have had no problem in getting cart pages indexed.  I am not sure that  just having an htm extention and no ? in the url makes a difference in ranking. Now if we were talking about a keywork page name like watercolor/coastal-painting.htm that would be a different issue.

Anyone know how to get a watercolor/coastal-painting.htm type url for each  product without doing a manual rewrite for each page?  if you do we need to talk.







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Posted By: watercrazed
Date Posted: 18-February-2006 at 7:43am
Now to be fair I just ran an google search on
Brown Square Tote

and the site came up 2nd out of 700,000
I would be interested in knowing the ranking this search or others
pre and post change.


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Posted By: thrion
Date Posted: 06-April-2006 at 3:08pm

I think it's hard to judge from one website, especially for one this size and one that sells so many unique items.

Just for grins, we did some extra testing on this site.  If you search for any of the main site keywords (except for the ones that include the designers name), the site is no where to be found.  If you search for product names or the designers name, the site comes to the top of the list.

Also interesting is that the site only has a PR of 2.  We have a PR of 4 and are not using the static pages.

Looking at links, google only lists a handful of links for this site and almost all of them are links from the site to itself.  MSN shows 0 and yahoo shows just over 100.

Would love to get other opinions on this too...anyone trying this?



Posted By: geoff
Date Posted: 17-April-2006 at 9:30pm
This is something that I would like to be able to impliment. However, on the 1and1 shared MS hosted service that I am currently using I do not have the ability to modify the IIS settings.

Are there any other ways of dealing with naming dynamic pages?

For example should I just generate all the dynamic pages names and paste it into the site map?

Sorry if this is a dumb question!


Posted By: yeeyeng
Date Posted: 24-July-2006 at 10:06am

I have v2.76 BTO + Apparel Add-on; I download the SEO file and upload to my server.  It works but the "color swatch" function disappears.  I bet the SEO file supports the standard and BTO, I wander does Early Impact has a version of SEO file that support the Apparel Add-on? So that the apparel function will work properly with the SEO function.



Posted By: shamusOmalley
Date Posted: 01-August-2006 at 11:06am
Any plans to port this SEFU mod to v3? 


Posted By: yeeyeng
Date Posted: 02-August-2006 at 11:42am

Originally posted by shamusOmalley shamusOmalley wrote:

Any plans to port this SEFU mod to v3? 

I agree, I think Early Impact should considered SEO as one of the selling points for it's productcart.  This function should include in v3. 



Posted By: shamusOmalley
Date Posted: 02-August-2006 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by yeeyeng yeeyeng wrote:

I agree, I think Early Impact should considered SEO as one of the selling points for it's productcart.  This function should include in v3. 



I actually have an upcoming project with a client that is requiring this and force me to purchase 2.x

Any response from the admins would be greatly appreciated!



Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 02-August-2006 at 12:52pm

Yes, we will post the files soon, but probably after August 9, which is the official release date for the final version of v3. That way we can post the most updated version of the files that are affected by this feature.

This post is now obsolete. The files have been posted. See above.



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Posted By: shamusOmalley
Date Posted: 30-August-2006 at 2:51pm
Is there any update on this? Thanks


Posted By: shamusOmalley
Date Posted: 05-September-2006 at 4:11pm
Bump

Anything on this would be helpful. Please advise on the status.


Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 06-September-2006 at 2:49am

We plan on publishing the v3 of these files after the release of the v3.03 update, which is scheduled to be released soon (possibly by the end of this week).

This post is now obsolete. The files have been posted. See above.



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Posted By: scarlettscloset
Date Posted: 18-September-2006 at 1:36pm
When can we expect the v3 version of these files? Will you send an announcement?

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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 20-September-2006 at 1:18am

We will try to get to this as soon as possible. It's technically more difficult to accomplish this than in v2.76, due to the fact that v3 is a much more sophisticated system.

This post is now obsolete. The files have been posted. See above.



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Posted By: carstone
Date Posted: 10-November-2006 at 10:25am
Any update on this?


Posted By: thedeacon
Date Posted: 12-November-2006 at 12:40pm

Yeah, I'm definitely eager to try this out for productcart v3.  Surprisingly, even google is handling the dynamic pages poorly...well, not at all actually >.<

Is there a beta we could test out?



Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 12-November-2006 at 9:16pm

Instead of using this technique, which presents some technical problems with ProductCart v3, we are beta testing an HTML Catalog Generator that produces search engine friendly URLs (e.g. product-name.html).

This post is now obsolete. The files have been posted. See above.



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Posted By: carstone
Date Posted: 23-January-2007 at 10:54am

Could you update us on whether you have had any progress in this area, please.



Posted By: metalmania
Date Posted: 09-February-2007 at 5:08am

I too am interested in knowing how the updates are progressing as we have a client who's requirements closely match that of ProductCart.

The SEO element of the site is extremely important to both ourselves and the client. We have already completed a previous site for the client using cactushop pro v6, which uses custom 404 to handle the friendly URLs and works very well. This also publishes the friendly links in the menu/category/product links and other front of site links.

Not sure what the technical problems would be with using 404's with V3 (I'm guessing its the AJAX stuff), is there not a work-around or if you want to post the problem here maybe we can come up with an answer for you?? (eg I know moving code to a javascript module solved the small problem we had with Macromedia Flash and 404's). 

How would the HTML Catalogue generator work? would it be a simple "static site map" with these friendly URLs and/or would it actually use the friendly URLs in the site navigation etc so the spiders can index and follow them from any page?

Keep us posted please - we need to make a decision on the solution in the next week or so.



Posted By: rotokirby
Date Posted: 29-April-2007 at 12:19am
I'd like to know what the progress is on this project as well...anything that
can help with SEO! :)


Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 29-April-2007 at 1:29am
The files for version 3 are almost ready. We will let you know as soon as they are ready for BETA testing. You can see them at work on http://www.earlyimpact.com/eistore/productcart/pc/ProductCart-eCommerce-Software-c118.htm - our own software store .

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Posted By: rotokirby
Date Posted: 29-April-2007 at 8:08am
Thanks for the update!


Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 08-May-2007 at 9:33pm

The files for version 3 (3.051) are now ready. They have been working well on our own software store. We look forward to your feedback.

http://www.earlyimpact.com/forum/uploaded_files/earlyimp/2007-05-08_213250_pcSEP_v3.051_050807.zip - 2007-05-08_213250_pcSEP_v3.051_050807.zip



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Posted By: thedeacon
Date Posted: 08-May-2007 at 10:12pm
WOOHOO!!!! THANK YOU!


Posted By: Stuck
Date Posted: 09-May-2007 at 11:06pm

I just got the SEO / Static URL mods uploaded & operational for our two Version 3.051 sites!

Very, Very Cool!



Posted By: mimpoz
Date Posted: 10-May-2007 at 2:13pm

Thanks so much!  We've waited a while for this and are thrilled with the results! 

Check it out... http://www.thechassansplace.com - http://www.thechassansplace.com



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Posted By: thedeacon
Date Posted: 11-May-2007 at 4:32pm

I like that site!  Good clean layout!

I also got the static SEO pages for http://www.hipepc.com - http://www.hipepc.com and I couldn't be happier.  It works FLAWLESSLY.

Best of all, the old pages still work too, so we don't get a drop in our page ranks.  In fact, with Google's fresh bot, won't it see the new pages and actually boost the rankings?  I hope so! :)

We slipped down a little bit on google for a couple of search terms with this last indexing, but moved up even higher on yahoo and msn.  I'm thinking with the addition of static pages and with a renewed focus on per page meta tagging, we'll snag some more first page listings!

It's free updates like this that make me glad we went with ProductCart and keep us recommending Product Cart to all of our customers :)  Great big thumbs up for Early Impact!



Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 11-May-2007 at 8:24pm

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** Using HTM Pages on your ProductCart store
************************************************************ ******

Updated files are available.
http://www.earlyimpact.com/forum/uploaded_files/earlyimp/2007-05-11_202415_pcSEP_v3.051_051107.zip - 2007-05-11_202415_pcSEP_v3.051_051107.zip

05.11.07 - Release Notes

Next and Previous buttons
----------------------------------------------
Fixed an issue with the Next and Previous buttons on the product
details page. They are now using the SEO links. Note that when
you go into a product details page from a search page, the SEO
links could not be applied to the Next and Previous buttons and
therefore the dynamic links are used instead. To avoid any chances
of duplicate content being indexed, we added the "nofollow"
attribute to those links (viewprdcode.asp). We did the same in
the page navigation on "viewcategories".


Generate Navigation Feature
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Fixed an issue with the product description used in the links
assigned to the product and category navigation items created
by the Generate Navigation feature. This feature truncates long
product and category descriptions to avoid interface issues.
The same variables (names) were used in the links. This was causing
those links to be inconsistent with the ones generated elsewhere
in the storefront. The fix corrects this problem.


Links in Search Results
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To keep the SEO links consistent, a bit of code was added to
detect whether a category ID did not exist in the search results
(e.g. simple keyword search). In that scenario, the first category
that the product has been assigned to is used as the category
ID in the static link.


Repeated Category ID
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In certain scenarios the wrong category ID was used due to a
variable not being properly cleared. The link was still working,
but the category mentioned in the link was not the correct one.
This applied to the home page, best sellers, new arrivals, specials,
and featured product pages. The correct category is now used.


Added SEO Links to Cross Selling items
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Cross-selling products were still using the dynamic links.
The links have now been updated.



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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 23-May-2007 at 9:12pm

*********************************************
** Using HTM Pages on your ProductCart store
*********************************************

Updated files are available: http://www.earlyimpact.com/forum/uploaded_files/earlyimp/2007-05-23_211035_pcSEP_v3.051_052307.zip - 2007-05-23_211035_pcSEP_v3.051_052307.zip  (05.23.07)

05.23.07 - Release Notes

Title META TAG for Category Pages
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The category name is now used for the title tag.

File Synchronization
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A few of the files were synchronized with the corresponding
latest versions.



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Posted By: yukonjack
Date Posted: 06-June-2007 at 9:13am
I've uploaded the files and made the changes required to the 404 lookup in IIS but I'm not seeing the .htm versions of the links when I load /viewcategories.asp. Any suggestions as to what I need to do?


Posted By: yukonjack
Date Posted: 06-June-2007 at 10:25am
Silly me. I just figured it out. My FTP program had not copied all the new files to the server. Now that I've copied all the files to the server, this mod works perfectly. Thanks EI!


Posted By: beaverfish
Date Posted: 18-June-2007 at 2:29pm

I just implemented the custom 404 static page switcher files.  I seem to be having success on the 're-writing' aspect - but not the 're-re-writing' aspect. Hmm...

For example,  this is a re-written URL: http://webdevcss/pc/2-6oz-CAB-Filet-Mignon-18p21.htm - http://webdevcss/pc/2-6oz-CAB-Filet-Mignon-18p21.htm  (it's from my dev system).  But when I click the link, I'm getting a 404 error.

So it seems that one side is building the friendly URL - but the other side is not translating it back properly.  I am running 3.03 and replaced the changed code for each file located in the download using ExamDiff Pro (nice program).  I checked the differences twice, so I'm pretty sure they are correct.

Am I missing something obvious here?  Any suggestions would be MOST appreciated.

Thanks

Kevin



Posted By: mimpoz
Date Posted: 20-June-2007 at 11:17am
I noticed in the upgrade it said that the viewcategories.asp and viewprd.asp have a no follow on them. where does it have it. I want to add no follow,no index,no archive so it should get rid of the existing results so I do not have duplicat content. Right now google is putting my static pages a supplemental results

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Posted By: mimpoz
Date Posted: 25-June-2007 at 1:15pm

Now that the static upgrade has a nofollow on the viewcategories page when there are multiple pages to display ei. http://www.chevellejewelry.com/gold-diamond/pc/ASSCHER-c248.htm - http://www.chevellejewelry.com/gold-diamond/pc/ASSCHER-c248. htm  there are 7 pages of items. will the items on page 2-7 not get indexed ?



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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 25-June-2007 at 5:39pm

That is correct. The code is there to prevent the ASP version of the page being indexed and triggering a possible duplicate content penalty. You should create subcategories.

On the other end, we will try to find ways to prevent duplicate content issues and prevent the use of no-follow on the page navigation. It's a little tricky to find a good solution for this.



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Posted By: mimpoz
Date Posted: 26-June-2007 at 10:38am
we already have subcategories I am worried that sub-subcategories might take away from the user experience. Do you think it would help if we had a link for view all - and have some kind of static page link ei. http://www.chevellejewelry.com/gold-diamond/pc/ASSCHER-all-c248.htm - http://www.chevellejewelry.com/gold-diamond/pc/ASSCHER-all-c 248.htm  and show all the asschers diamond studs...

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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 26-June-2007 at 10:45am
Yes, that sounds like a smart idea.

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Posted By: mimpoz
Date Posted: 26-June-2007 at 10:52am
do you think there would be a duplicate content issues since the whole first page would be repeated in the results or is it ok since there are other items there to.

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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 26-June-2007 at 11:03am
I wouldn't bee too concerned. As you might know, there is a huge debate about duplicate content. There people (including some Google staff) that completely downplay the issue indicating that there is no such thing as a duplicate content penalty. There are other people (e.g. some SEO experts) that say they swear they have seen the penalty over and over. I wouldn't be too concerned. We put a no-follow on those links just because we are trying to have a search engine spider focus on the static pages, rather than the dynamic ones (so viewcategories.asp would never really get indexed from the spider browsing the store). Still, feel free to remove it. We have feeling that the impact on the overall Web store rankings would be minimal.

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Posted By: mimpoz
Date Posted: 05-July-2007 at 10:32am

I am setting up the static pages for http://www.chumbadeals.com - http://www.chumbadeals.com  everything works fine for categories when I click on a product it errors out. I checked up the error code in the admin area and this is what I am getting

Customer Reference Number: 520140283-10714 
Date/Time: 7/5/2007 
Session ID: 520140283 
Error Number: -2147217900 
Source: Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server 
Description: Line 1: Incorrect syntax near '='.
query=SELECT pcRE_IDProduct FROM pcRevExc WHERE pcRE_IDProduct=
 
Request Method: GET 
Server Port: 80 
HTTPS: off 
Local Address: 10.0.0.6 
Host Address: 67.82.118.227 
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) 
URL: /productcart/pc/404.asp 
HTTP Headers: http://www.chumbadeals.com - www.chumbadeals.com , en-us

has anyone encountered this problem? I searched all the documents for the query

SELECT pcRE_IDProduct FROM pcRevExc WHERE pcRE_IDProduct=
and cannot find it anywhere.



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Posted By: jlivingston
Date Posted: 13-July-2007 at 3:27pm
I'm having issues doing this (spent many hours trying to figure it out) and was wondering if anyone could give me some insight to a few questions I have.

From the changes I made the .htm links show, but when selecting the link all I get is a blank page.

I ran the test at http://gsitecrawler.com/tools/server-status.aspx and I'm getting a 404 for pages that don't exist (good), and I'm getting an error code 200 for ProductCart htm pages (also good). Just can't see anyting when going to a .htm page. Source code is blank as well.

Before making any of these changes I moved the home page to the root following the instruction provided if that helps. Due to this I have 404.asp and 404b.asp in the root and have IIS configured for the 404 like "/404.asp" (using URL type).

Any help would be much appreciated.


Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 30-August-2007 at 3:27pm

The problem mentioned above that relates to the Product Reviews feature had been fixed, but apparently the updated files were not posted here. They have been posted now. We apologize for the inconvenience. To download, you will find the link at the beginning of this thread:

http://www.earlyimpact.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69&PN=1 - http://www.earlyimpact.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69& PN=1



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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 09-September-2007 at 3:46pm

Uploaded files compatible with ProductCart v3.1

ProductCart v3.1: http://www.earlyimpact.com/forum/uploaded_files/earlyimp/2007-09-09_154357_pcSEO_v3.1_090907.zip - 2007-09-09_154357_pcSEO_v3.1_090907.zip  (09.09.07)



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Posted By: Jackalope
Date Posted: 10-October-2007 at 5:48pm

I followed the instructions and went through the process more than twice just to make sure I hadn't missed a step. When I check http://gsitecrawler.com/tools/server-status.aspx - http://gsitecrawler.com/tools/server-status.aspx  for a page that should be there like home.asp, I get a "Result code: 200 (OK / OK)", and when I check for a page that should not be there, I get a "Result code: 404 (NotFound / Not Found)". I think this is how it should be. And when I navigate to viewCategories.asp, I can see the different categories with the new .htm links. However, when I click on any category I get an "HTTP 4004 Not Found" error. And when checking one of my product links using the static .htm address, I get "Result code: 404 (NotFound / Not Found)". I even tried generating a Store Map to see what happened. The file generated fine and the links all point to the static .htm pages, but clicking on each link gives the "HTTP 4004 Not Found" error.

Just checking from within the PC control panel, if I locate a product and go to preview it, it has the original "viewPrd.asp?idproduct=..." address. Is this correct or should it have the .htm address?

I'm baffled and don't know what to do? Any help is much appreciated.



Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 17-November-2007 at 6:00pm

Uploaded files compatible with version 3.11:

ProductCart v3.1: http://www.earlyimpact.com/forum/uploaded_files/earlyimp/2007-11-17_175837_pcSEP_v3.11_111607.zip - 2007-11-17_175837_pcSEP_v3.11_111607.zip  (11.16.07)



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Posted By: loracady
Date Posted: 28-December-2007 at 3:48pm

I have tried all day to get this redirect to work.  I have followed the directions exactly three times to make sure that I got it right.  I am having the same problem as jackalope in that he (or she) keeps getting the 404 error.  To quote:   "I can see the different categories with the new .htm links. However, when I click on any category I get an "HTTP 404 Not Found" error. And when checking one of my product links using the static .htm address, I get "Result code: 404 (NotFound / Not Found)"."  

I am running version 3.11a and I used the corresponding files from early impact.  Does anyone have any ideas?  Thanks!



Posted By: andi.magill
Date Posted: 31-March-2008 at 4:18am
Hi

Having exactly the same problem - Seems to be quite a problem for a lot of people - yet seems to work fine for others - must be summit or nowt? Please advise if u have had the same problem & managed to find a solution.

kind regards
Andi Magill
Dijitalhub


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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 31-March-2008 at 4:56am
Make sure that you have edited the 404 error handler on the server. The 404 error type must be a URL and the URL location of the 404.asp file in the "pc" subfolder of your store.

If you are not given a choice between a "File" and "URL" as the 404 error type, then simply set it to point to 404.asp.

Different hosting companies allow you to perform this task in a different way. For example, here is how this is setup on one of our test stores (this is hosted at GoDaddy).




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Posted By: loracady
Date Posted: 01-April-2008 at 10:57am

Hi Andi-

My problem was just what early impact described.  I had the wrong URL in the error handler on the server.  When I fixed that, it worked just fine.  Following is the URL that worked for me /store/pc/404.asp. 

Good luck!

Lora



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Posted By: Brett
Date Posted: 22-April-2008 at 6:09pm
I'm looking at using ProductCart for our e-commerce website. This SEO issue is one of our main hangups at the moment.

The problem arises from the possibility of duplicated content. Check these links out (taken from one of the featured ProductCart sites):
http://www.nutralife.com/supplements/pc/SAMe-400mg-30-tablet s-2p59.htm

That is the correct link, using the custom 404 as intended. However, there is an issue with duplicate content, because the link isn't really tamper-proof. Check this out:
http://www.nutralife.com/allcompletejibberishdoesntmatterata ll-2p59.htm

It doesnt matter what the first part of the URL is, as long as the last few characters (I'm assuming whatever's after the last hyphen) are correct, because that's what the custom 404 page is reading.

Supposedly this has to do with the IIS server's lack of a mod_rewrite equivalent. For example, check out page site running on a linux server with a php-based ecommerce solution:

http://www.balance-your-hormones.com/hormone-test/hormone-te st.html

You'll notice that there are no characters at the end of the URL, only the product name. This makes it much more unlikely that duplicate URLs will be produced and indexed.

Do you think this problem with possible duplicate URLs will be an issue in search engine rankings? Creating a static page for each of our products simply isn't an option, as we have over 10,000 products waiting to be entered into whatever software we decide to use.



Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 23-April-2008 at 4:16am
Hi Brett,

Two comments on this:
  • The scenario that you describe in your example is probably not a common real-life occurrence. It's hard to imagine a situation where you would have multiple, different URLs pointing to the same page (other than maybe user error).
  • Don't overestimate the "duplicate content penalty". Google has been rather clear in indicating that the penalty - if any - only applies when there is a scenario of substantial duplication of content (e.g. syndication of content). For example, see the following http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/duplicate-content-question/ - posting by Matt Cutts on the topic .


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Posted By: The internets
Date Posted: 08-May-2008 at 2:31pm
It has been some time since this was introduced.  What are the results for those of you that implemented this?


Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 09-May-2008 at 10:55pm
I have a question about installing this for stores that have been online for a while.
 
After installing the mod, I tested a page such as mystore.com/store/pc/viewcategories.asp?idcategory=22 using the http://gsitecrawler.com/tools/server-status.aspx - http://gsitecrawler.com/tools/server-status.aspx  tool, and I still get a 200 response.  The page clearly renders.
 
Is that a problem?  Is that not the source of a "duplicate content" issue? 


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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 10-May-2008 at 4:49am
The ASP pages must remain available. For example: when going back to the product details page from the "View Cart" page, ProductCart passes back information on options attributes that had been selected or input fields that had been filled out.

A couple of "to do" items:
- Replace all internal links so that they use the HTM pages
- Replace all incoming links that you have control on
- Use the updated Control Panel tools to create a store map and site map that use the new URLs
- Submit the new sitemap to Google and other search engines, making sure the previous one is replaced by the new sitemap.

Don't overestimate the "duplicate content penalty". See above on this same topic.


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Posted By: mimpoz
Date Posted: 21-May-2008 at 1:08pm
I have the static upgrade on many stores. I have one problem which I was wondering if it was fixed I get an error when I add a query string after the .htm see

Invalid:                 http://www.chumbadeals.com/productcart/pc/Dog-Stuff-c2510.htm?_oskwdid=3484896 - http://www.chumbadeals.com/productcart/pc/Dog-Stuff-c2510.htm?_oskwdid=3484896

Working:              http://www.chumbadeals.com/productcart/pc/Dog-Stuff-c2510.htm - http://www.chumbadeals.com/productcart/pc/Dog-Stuff-c2510.htm




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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 22-May-2008 at 6:29am
Yes, this has been fixed in the latest files. Please download the latest files and let us know if you are still experiencing a problem. You can find them in the first post of this long thread, or http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/productcart/seo-urls#files - on the new ProductCart WIKI .

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Posted By: dinop
Date Posted: 26-May-2008 at 4:35pm
hi, I've set everything up as per instructions. I've uploaded the 3.11b version of files, and I'm using Productcart BTO 3.11b. The categories are now static SEO friendly pages, but the BTO products are not, and when typing in the SEO friendly static URL for that BTO product it loads it up but redirects to ConfigurePrd.asp?idproduct etc....you can have a look here: http://tinyurl.com/57k978 - http://tinyurl.com/57k978 . Any ideas anyone?....Pleeeease!


Posted By: tchapin
Date Posted: 05-June-2008 at 6:30pm
First of all, I just want to say thank you for creating this modification for ProductCart! Search engine friendly URLs are the best. I wish this just came standard with ProductCart! The 404 method seems to work really well.

One problem I ran into was that the content pages aren't search engine friendly, though, so I made some modifications that would enable this functionality.

As far as I know, this mod should work for the ProductCart 3.11 version (with parent paths enabled). Just extract and replace over existing files (after making backups).

This mod only works for direct links to content pages. I didn't modify any of the automated navigation generation scripts, so if you want that functionality, you'll need to figure it out.

Attached File:

uploads/1229/2008-06-05_151700_pcSEP_v3.11_Friendly_Content_Pages.zip - uploads/1229/2008-06-05_151700_pcSEP_v3.11_Friendly_Content_Pages.zip

P.S. Any word on a 3.12 compatible version of the search engine friendly mod?



Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 05-June-2008 at 6:37pm
3.12 is only 3.11 plus the various scripts that are listed in the "just in" section of the site.  I don't recall seeing any overlap, and believe it's just fine to use the 3.11 SEO mod with 3.12.
 
Someone might correct me but I'm fairly certain about this.


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Posted By: rkashyap
Date Posted: 05-July-2008 at 12:31am
I have version 3.12. Can the early impact admin confirm that the 3.11 SEO mod for static pages will work on my version 3.12?


Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 05-July-2008 at 12:49am
It should be fine.  The way to demonstrate this is to look at the files listed on the support page (the post 3.11 fixes) and you should not find any conflicts between those and the SEO-mod files. 

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Posted By: rkashyap
Date Posted: 06-July-2008 at 7:55pm
QUESTION ABOUT CONFLICT IF HOME.ASP WAS MOVED TO ROOT

I have already moved the home.asp file to the root. In the process i edited a lot of files as indicated the the product cart manual. Most of the files that were modified as the same files that are included in the 404 static pages fro version 3.11. In that case what would be the best course of action?

Should I just replace my current files with 404 static pages and then follow the instructions  to home home.asp to root directory all over again?


Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 06-July-2008 at 9:00pm
Originally posted by rkashyap rkashyap wrote:

Should I just replace my current files with 404 static pages and then follow the instructions  to home home.asp to root directory all over again?
 
Sure, it works fine.
 
http://www.gpsandmarineworld.com/ - http://www.gpsandmarineworld.com/  is a very stock 3.11 site with the SEO mod, and the "home page in the root" mod.  if you copy (into the root) the SEO versions of homecode.asp, pcShowProductH.asp, pcShowProductL, pcShowProductM and pcShowProductP, then alter them to support their presence at that location, it all works just fine.  BTW, once this is done, you can rename home.asp to index.asp or default.asp according to your preferences.
 
BTW, if you use the AJAX product preview, be sure to follow this article which allows you to maintain the use of that feature in the home page http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/how_to/move_home_page_retain_ajax - http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/how_to/move_home_page_retain_ajax


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Posted By: rkashyap
Date Posted: 07-July-2008 at 9:29pm
I am considering modifying the code further to remove productcart/pc/ from all static urls. Would you suggest that? Would it require a lot of modification?


Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 07-July-2008 at 10:03pm
I spoke with someone on the phone recently who did it. He didn't make it clear as to how difficult it was. 
 
Personally, the obstacle for me would not so much be the associated difficulty - it's the prospects of having to edit every future patch or new release in order to continue to support that structure. 
 
What do you feel is to be gained?  Do you feel strongly that the effort is justified? 
 
I  have one client who was going to have me install the SEO mod, and he also owns a Volusion store.  His experience has been that diligent efforts to submit his store, and proper keywording of his products and categories has allowed his new PC site to advance in search engine rankings far faster than the Volusion store that's been around for years.  Unless you have already tried and not been successful, I'd suggest pursuing all typical "best practices" for performing SEO enhancements before taking the route of what you propose.


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Posted By: rkashyap
Date Posted: 09-July-2008 at 5:17pm
I implemented the 3.11 SEO mod for static pages. All the links have been change to static links EXCEPT the links in the "Recently View Products" section. Have I don't something wrong? If I have not gone wrong do you know if these links get indexed by search engine? I believe that even if these links don't get indexed by search engine then also i would be nice to have them as static links.




Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 09-July-2008 at 6:11pm
No, recently viewed items would not be seen by a search engine bot as they are based on a cookie that is saved to the user's desktop. So there is not implication in terms of SEO. There are some technical issues with getting those links to use the SEO routines, so we recommend leaving the code "as is".

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Posted By: blkg37
Date Posted: 29-August-2008 at 9:34am

Thank you for the support and the great addition to this shopping cart ! I am new to working with this cart, but have experience working with shopping cart software now for about 6 years.

I recently installed this URL re-write and it works very well. I have 2 questions/issues after the install

1. Before the install the left side navigation would show the sub links after a main category was clicked on. For example Widgets it the main category and under that are red widgets, green widgets, and so on. Before the update when i clicked on Widgets I would be taken to the widgets page and on the left side nav bar Red, Green, ect would be shown. Now these links are not visible. I use a customized side navigation and the only thing i did was change the old urls with the new ones. Any suggestions on how i can get this functionality back?

 

2. The only other issue i see with the re-write is that in the shopping cart. After adding a product to your cart you see the product in your cart with a clickable link. The clickable link does not use the re-write, and possible allowing a spider to crawl the old urls. Has anyone else noticed this and what are you thoughts on possible issues?

 

Thank you for your response

 



Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 30-August-2008 at 7:41pm
To answer your questions:

(1) The script is probably looking for a querystring from which to extract the category ID. The querystring is no longer there and therefore the system is unable to determine the category ID. You can instead extract the category ID from the following session variable:

session("idCategoryRedirect")

The code would be very similar to what you see towards the top of the viewcategories.asp page. Note that you cannot use the code "as is" because the "validNum" function may not be defined. If you need additional assistance, please contact http://www.earlyimpact.com/cpd - Certified ProductCart Developer .

pTempIntSubCategory=session("idCategoryRedirect")
if pTempIntSubCategory = "" then
    pTempIntSubCategory=getUserInput(request("idCategory"),10)
end if

'// Validate Category ID
    if not validNum(pTempIntSubCategory) then
        pTempIntSubCategory=""
    end if
intIdCategory=pTempIntSubCategory

(2) This is not an issue because a search engine bot would never add a product to the cart and then spider the links that are a result of that action. To a search engine bot, the shopping cart is always empty.


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Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 11-September-2008 at 8:56pm
If PC cared...
 
Why doesn't PC work in the root directory and make an option to turn on static pages?


Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 3:54am
The folder structure is not something that can be easily altered at this time, and the impact on search engine rankings is negligible if you have your category pages 2 levels down, especially considering that the "productcart" folder can be renamed to a strong keyword phrase for your Web site (e.g. if you are selling outdoor furniture, that folder could be renamed "outdoor-furniture").

The SEO technique discussed here (.htm URLs) cannot be embedded into the system out of the box because it relies on the assumption that the server can support it, which is not always true. In other words, this cannot be turned into an "On/Off" feature, unfortunately.


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Posted By: Hamish
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 5:33am
Many sites that run ProductCart have added it to an existing site, so having everything in the root would be a very bad idea for those stores.

The whole folder depth issue as far as SEO is concerned just doesn't hold water in my experience. For example, I just googled "bananas" , got 20.4m hits and on the front page after wikipedia, youtube and a couple of others is :
  1. http://www.oxfam.org.uk/coolplanet/kidsweb/banana/index.htm - Cool Planet - Bonkers about bananas

    www.oxfam.org.uk/coolplanet/kidsweb/banana/index.htm - 13k -
     4 levels down

  2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2664373.stm - BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Bananas could split for good

    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2664373.stm - 45k -
    5 levels down

  3. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2003/jan/16/gm.science - Yes - in 10 years we may have no bananas | Environment | The Guardian

    www.guardian.co.uk/science/2003/jan/16/gm.science - 81k -
    5 levels down
There are the SEO rewrite techniques available, but mostly it's down to good old fashioned content and graft to build a well respected & linked to site.

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Posted By: ProductCart
Date Posted: 11-October-2008 at 3:48pm
This thread is now closed as there is an article in the ProductCart WIKI dedicated to using keyword-rich URLs in ProductCart. See: http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/productcart/seo-urls - http://wiki.earlyimpact.com/productcart/seo-urls


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