Ver. 3 Redirects Do they work? |
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Posted: 03-April-2007 at 4:40am |
Well, from a users standpoint they do. But I am less sure about how google and other spiders with view them. After using 4 of the available header status checking tools. All of them reported a problem on my site. Based on the header response code the redirects are sending the browers to an invalid page. Google could well be seeing a blank page with an error code.
Here are the results from my test on my site. I would like to know if others are getting similar errors or if it is isolated to my site. Do you think it is a problem in the search engines eyes, even if you can replicate the results. -------------------------------------------- URL=http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/productcart/pc/ViewC at_h.asp?idCategory=85 Result code: 301 (MovedPermanently / Moved Permanently) [so far so good ] Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:14:27 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Location: viewcategories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H Content-Length: 0 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSQQDQQQQ=GHKJDLNAFEIHIOEKDFAMOFBJ; path=/ Cache-Control: private New location: viewcategories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H Location is not an absolute URL! [here is the problem ] Assuming new URL is: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/productcart/pc/viewcateg ories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H URL= http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/productcart/pc/viewcateg ories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H Result code: 302 (Found / Moved Temporarily) [could live with this ] Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:14:28 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Pragma: no-cache Location: msg.asp?message=86 Content-Length: 139 Content-Type: text/html Expires: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:13:28 GMT Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSQQDQQQQ=HHKJDLNAOHFCDHPMFMMKDDCE; path=/ Cache-Control: no-cache New location: msg.asp?message=86 Location is not an absolute URL! Assuming new URL is: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/productcart/pc/msg.asp?m essage=86 [ but then the tool did something unexpected can not live with this if it is what the spider is seeing and how it is reacting to the invalid header} So another test ------------------------------------------------------------ -- using a google bot simulator 1. Requesting: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/productcart/pc/ViewCat_h .asp?idCategory=85 GET /productcart/pc/ViewCat_h.asp?idCategory=85 HTTP/1.1 Connection: Keep-Alive Keep-Alive: 300 Accept:*/* Host: www.ultimatewatermassage.com Accept-Language: en-us Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) Server Response: 301 Moved Permanently [ Good ] Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:22:10 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Location: viewcategories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H Content-Length: 0 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSQQDQQQQ=LJKJDLNABAJIBNCKICLKGBGC; path=/ Cache-control: private Redirecting to viewcategories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H ... [ no so good ] 2. Requesting: viewcategories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H GET viewcategories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H HTTP/1.1 Connection: Keep-Alive Keep-Alive: 300 Accept:*/* Host: Accept-Language: en-us Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) WinHttp.WinHttpRequest error '80072ee6' [ Broke the tool ] The URL does not use a recognized protocol /tools/headers/index.asp, line 298 Cache-Control: private ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ Checked URL: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/productcart/pc/ViewCat_h .asp?idCategory=85 Status: 301 Location: viewcategories.asp?idCategory=85&pageStyle=H It seems that the redirect goes to a partial url that is interpreted as an invalid URL To try and check it was not the just the tools or my site I ran a few redirects I use for other SEO issues. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ A redirect I prepared to deal with a different duplicate content issue A . Requesting: http://64.187.108.246/links/alternativehealingproducts.htm GET /links/alternativehealingproducts.htm HTTP/1.1 Connection: Keep-Alive Keep-Alive: 300 Accept:*/* Host: 64.187.108.246 Accept-Language: en-us Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0b; Windows NT 6.0) Server Response: 301 Moved Permanently Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:47:04 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Location: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/links/alternativehealing products.htm Content-Length: 17911 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSQRBRTRR=NINBMJPAPILPBPKJLEOJDILF; path=/ Cache-control: private Redirecting to http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/links/alternativehealing products.htm ... 2. Requesting: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/links/alternativehealing products.htm GET /links/alternativehealingproducts.htm HTTP/1.1 Connection: Keep-Alive Keep-Alive: 300 Accept:*/* Host: www.ultimatewatermassage.com Accept-Language: en-us Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0b; Windows NT 6.0) Server Response: 200 OK Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:47:05 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Content-Length: 17911 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSQRBRTRR=OINBMJPAKGNOEGALDNAOIPAA; path=/ Cache-control: private ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A REDIRECT WORKING from non-www. to www URL=http://ultimatewatermassage.com/links/alternativehealing products.htm Result code: 301 (MovedPermanently / Moved Permanently) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:52:45 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Location: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/links/alternativehealing products.htm Content-Length: 17911 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSQRBRTRR=KKNBMJPANOAMBNPNJJKMELHN; path=/ Cache-Control: private New location: http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/links/alternativehealing products.htm URL= http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/links/alternativehealing products.htm Result code: 200 (OK / OK) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:52:45 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Content-Length: 17911 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSQRBRTRR=LKNBMJPAPLEMPPOMEOOMAPEN; path=/ Cache-Control: private |
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Redirect Problem John, the link http://www.ultimatewatermassage Do you believe that the problem is that the redirect to the message page (msg.asp) is a local redirect? If so, you can certainly change that by editing the file "pc/pcBreadCrumbs.asp" (line 27 and 88). Try replacing that with the full URL to that page and see if your tests run successfully then. Overdoing SEO Now, that said, considering other messages that you have posted, I believe that you are overdoing your on-site SEO. If I were you, I would change strategy 180 degrees. You only have 45 links to your Web site according to Google: I would focus 100% of my time on that. From a quick look, it appears to me that your Web site is already SEO optimized. Don't overdo it. Believe me when I say that at Early Impact we stopped long ago overdoing SEO and focused back on our business and good, old PR. The results have been outstanding (this includes organic search results on some of our top keyword phrases). In my view, it's much better to spend your time marketing your products and your company rather than worrying about things like the duplicate content filter/penalty. That's because the bottom line is: those are things that are mostly outside of your control. What if a competitor created a copy of your Web site? What if they created 10 copies of it? What if they posted the same copy you use on a ton of different blogs and newsgroups? Sleepless nights over duplicate content? No way! Cheers, Massimo |
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