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    Posted: 14-May-2008 at 5:35pm
I'm a new user of Product cart. I've been using Dreamweaver for many years and I have working knowledge of HTML and Javascripting. I have a business and do e-commerce on numerous websites internationally.

So I signed up for Product Cart because I relished the thought of having better customer service for my international customers, many of whom get the emails from us blocked by their IP's. My current cart is a very simple one with HTML buttons you can build in forms. Then you paste the button code in each page and there you go.    I thought having a control panel would be simpler than what I had been using, but wrong again.

And I just don't get asp. And the ProductCart manuals and Dreamweaver extension tutorials get me through making a "template," but where they fall miserably short is plugging an HTML user like myself into understanding how my "template" meshes with the whole asp concept. So the files are there, but how do they work? I'm a Dreamweaver user, not a Microsoft ASP user. This whole system is not intuitive at all.

So.. you make the template, and upload the header and footer files to your directory.. then what the heck? (end of tutorial).   Same with the manual (end of chapter, still clueless)

Time for Product Cart to create the missing manual-- because my project is now going to be very, very late and a few thousand customers just hanging as my web site is offline waiting-- I still don't know how this thing works and I've printed out the entire manual and I could write all kinds of questions at the end of each chapter. When you write a manual, you have to get into the mindset of your users.


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Bump two: topics I'd like to know about...

I'm not selling nuts and bolts. I'd like to be able to have some bigger pictures, the ability to have some popup pictures or resized photo links to other pages.. maybe add in some of my Flash player photo boxes that my customers love. Yes, I thought all that would convert from Dreamweaver in "just a couple clicks" with the Dreamweaver extension. All my pretty content is on the HTML site. The only part that could convert was a blank frame. If I link back to my pretty HTML site, then I bust the SSL so I can't do it.

OK, that's it for now.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hamish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-May-2008 at 4:31am
Hi Catrina & welcome to the forums!

Personally I've found the documentation about Product Cart some of the best around.
 
The ASP pages in Product Cart uses VBSCRIPT. You can learn more about it at :-
http://www.w3schools.com/Vbscript/default.asp
Most of the time you won't need to worry about the ASP code & many people never touch it.
That said, I know it's useful to understand how things hang together. You can get an understanding of how the pages by looking at one of the files that match a URL that you see in the store. For example pc/viewcategories.asp
If you look at that file you should see a mixture of VBSCRIPT, HTML & occasional Javascript.
In among the VBSCRIPT you will see lots of :
<!--#include file="######.asp"-->
lines where the ###### varies - These are modules of code that are common to lots of pages - such as the languages.asp file AND the header & footer files.
 
As for the bigger images, the AJAX popups do a good job & also there is a link to larger images automatically available for products if I remember correctly. It's in the manual Tongue
BTW - You don't HAVE to use the upload & resize functionality (but it's pretty good). If you wish, you can generate the image files in the different sizes & FTP them to the site.

I'm a dreamweaver user as well - but after building the header & footer I've not used it again for my sites. I find it easier to work on any ASP customisations with a power text editor.

I took a quick look at your site & see you don't have the products uploaded yet - The import facility is really useful for this as you can use a spreadsheet of your products (in the correct format) to load them into the database.

HTH

Hamish
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As for the "Missing Manual" - There's a newly launched WIKI (see link at the top of the page) - Where anyone who uses product cart can assist in providing just that! It's very early days yet and most of what is there is existing documentation or from other areas of the website, but over time it should fulfil that role.  I don't think many people have got into the habit of using it yet - me included, but if we all contribute we will all benefit!  Also, of course, the forums are useful to search.  
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