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Topic: Looking for customers
Posted By: JamesD
Subject: Looking for customers
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 4:20pm

I'm a reseller looking for customers.  Is there a place on this forum where I can post a request?  Also, if anyone has any other helpful info, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Jim



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Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 4:27pm
Reseller of what?  ProductCart?  If so, there is a forum section titled "partner offers" where you may wish to post your pitch.

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Posted By: JamesD
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 4:46pm
Yes, thanks -- I just posted there now.


Posted By: netprofits
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 4:58pm
Hi Jim, I saw your post on the Product Cart Partner forum. I would strongly encourage you to NOT use GoDaddy hosting for Product Cart sites. Although they are very inexpensive, they are riddled with problems. You can do a search in the forums and see a number of users who have tried to use GoDaddy and the headaches they have had.

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Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 5:09pm
Thank you Dan.  I completely agree. 

And honestly James, I have to wonder how much work one can deliver to a merchant for $1500 including the PC license. That's certainly an appealing price but unless you value your time at a very low rate, I'm curious about just how far you can take your prospective customers to the success that we all want them to enjoy (and still be able to feed yourself, etc.)  We can just barely implement a pre-designed template, and integrate it nicely for that fee - much less include the PC license.


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Posted By: JamesD
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 5:25pm
I don't believe I'm de-valueing the product or my time.  The last half-dozen customers I've had were just looking for a some very simple customization to the base ProductCart -- background theme, colors, logo... things I could do very easily.  There seems to be a market for that.  However, some do request an overhaul, and I do of course charge extra for that.


Posted By: cognecy
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 5:37pm
I "Third" that motion NOT to use GoDaddy for ProductCart sites. 
 
GoDaddy is your typical 'budget host' and you really do get what you pay for.  If I had a few pages that I needed hosting for cheap and did not have to worry about a database, then GoDaddy might be a good.  However, when it comes to applications hosting and in particular, ProductCart, they really fall short on a lot of levels. 
 
 


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Posted By: JamesD
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 6:00pm
Is the consensus that there's more of a market for sites with advanced customization?  I'll gladly take any advice I can get.  I need to generate business fast.


Posted By: netprofits
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 6:16pm
Hi James, if you are getting business on the low end and can afford to build sites for $1500 by all means stick with it. We have been building web sites for over 11 years and specifically working with Product Cart for about 6 years. The majority of our work is Product Cart sites which usually includes purchasing and setting up the site, providing hosting, creating a nice design, integrating the design into the PC template, doing some programming customizations, training the client on how to use PC, etc. For many of our sites, the customization cost is more than everything else combined. There is no way we can earn a living charging only $1500 for a site including the PC license. As Greg hinted, we spend a lot of time working with the customer, making sure the design is professional, and they understand how to optimize their site for search engines and conversion of sales.

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Posted By: Greg Dinger
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 6:23pm
Originally posted by JamesD JamesD wrote:

I'll gladly take any advice I can get.


Here's a helpful idea - I just looked for flashpowered.com and don't find anything.  Build a web site including a portfolio of your work so that prospective clients can judge your skills in advance of contacting you so they know whether you are able to do work that meets their expectations. 

You could also post them to www.greatonlinestores.com which will provide exposure to you.  Many merchants looking to build a store reference that site for ideas.

By getting your work online, developers who have overload may also be able to judge your ability to take on tasks that they might be willing to offer to you.


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Posted By: newseed
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 6:32pm
I have been in the web development business for 5 years and have worked with Product Cart software for about 1 1/2 years now and I don't think a client's investment of $1500 is wise by using some ready made template, bit of styling and above all things, host it on GoBaddy. They might as well go at it alone and save about $700 because they will end up with a site with no unique design and probably, in some cases, disappointed.
 
For those that are serious about doing business on the internet using Product Cart (or any other shopping cart) should have a professional developer to produce a professional unique design that will give the prospecting visitors a shopping experience that will keep them coming back.  I have seen many sites that were not visually done well in which I would never buy from.
 
'fast and 'cheap' will result in just that...fast but cheap.
 
In case you are wondering, no, I am not a resellar for Product Cart. I have dealt with enough sites to know how and what it takes to get a professional looking store up and running. It just so happens that most of them are Product Cart.


Posted By: netprofits
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 7:06pm
Another recommendation...post on these forums. When product cart users have questions, provide helpful answers. We have had quite a few clients ask us to do work for them because we were able to provide good advice here.

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Posted By: Hamish
Date Posted: 26-June-2009 at 9:59pm
Hi James,

I'm not sure what you including in the $1500.
One area you could/should focus on is "value add".
The process of finding and signing up a customer takes time and money.
One approach, to keep the "cost" down is to leave the customer to add all the categories, products, images etc. However, many businesses are already busy and prefer to focus on their area of expertise. You can offer a range of optional services as well as the basic website such as :-
- Admin user training
- Product Image Sourcing
- Category & Product setup
- Custom Code

  

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Posted By: JamesD
Date Posted: 27-June-2009 at 8:09am

Currently I'm having them do all the category/product insertion, and product images.  I'm providing training as needed.  But that's a good suggestion to spell out those services up front.  Thanks



Posted By: intour
Date Posted: 01-July-2009 at 5:12am
It is a very competitive market and there are many different types of customers.
 
Some want a quick (and cheap) setup and others are prepared to pay for a quality service, training and backup and support. Unless they have experience of running an online store they will need this. It is not unusual for these customers to also require some form of help with SEO.
 
I find the ones that want the cheap service and say they don't need the extra support are the ones that call me the most!
 
My personal experience with productcart is that all clients require help and support and a reasonable amount of intial training. This takes time so has to be built into the cost.
 
Adding yourself to the partner list here and uploading your sample stores is a step in the right direction but you will need to do a lot more marketing in other areas to win business and survive.
 
Nigel
 


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